Re: Bóann, The White Cow Taliesin_2 Sat Jan 23 01:37:09 1999 Searles wrote,*br*: The tale of Bóand is as follows:*br*:*br*: Bóand attempted to challange the power of the Well of *br*: Segais. In her folly, she attempted to cast a Tuaithe or *br*: "negative magic charm or spell" upon the well. *br*: This involved chanting an "amrun" while going *br*: around the well in a tuaisceart, to the "north" or *br*: "to the lefthand side" (widdershins) direction. *br*: She circled the well three times AGAINST the Sun. Three *br*: waves rose up from the well and drowned her. Being of the *br*: Sidhe, she did not die but lost and arm, a leg and an eye *br*: in her battle with the well.*p*I am going to assume that a "amrun" is a term in Irish Gaelic for charm or spell. If I'm wrong, please correct me.*p*: Five streams of wisdom flowed forth from this well (one for *br*: each of the senses). So Bóand suffered the *br*: "druidic/shamanic death" of drowning but she *br*: gained the Wisdom of Conla/Segais as well as the five *br*: senses. (I wonder if this tale might also refer to the *br*: "fives" of the Oghams in some way? I will have to *br*: further investigate.)*p*Can you give more detail on what exactly "druidic/shamanic death" is?*p*: Bóand is referred to by Néde, in "the Colloquy of the *br*: Two Sages," when he describes where he has been:*br*:*br*: "Along the elfmound of Nechtan's wife, (Brugh na *br*: Bóinne, Nechtan-cupbearer for the Well of Segais)*br*: along the forearm of Nuada's wife, (Ethlinn daughter of *br*: Balor)*br*: along the land of the sun, (Tory hill? Sleigh-Grian in *br*: Kilkenny?) (Grianan Ailech?)*br*: along the dwelling of the moon,(Sleigh-Na-Man? in *br*: Tipperary?) (The Lios?)*br*: along the young one's navel string." (The passage way *br*: into New Grange)*br*:*br*: These are references to the River Bóinne, the passage tombs *br*: and Angus mac Og. She was also the mate of the Dagdha at *br*: Samhain as well as the mother of Angus mac Og.*p*Are Angus mac Og and Angus Og the same person? Because I thought the "mac" denoted the fact of being a son. I also thought that Angus Og or Angus mac Og was the son of the Dagdha.*p*: I think we can see from this tale (and others) that *br*: traveling tuaisceart, "against the Sun", is a *br*: Magical act of banishment or projection/contention. *br*: Traveling with the Sun, "dessel", is a Magical act *br*: of invocation or attunement/empowerment. (Of course, having *br*: "geasa" changes this for us.)*p*How can projection/contention be connected? I thought contention meant some kind of conflict, i.e. a battle. While projection means to cast out as in a OBE. And how does having geasa change things???*p*: She is the one who has freed imbas from the Well of Segais *br*: and she is the mother of wisdom (Brighid).*p*I never heard or read of references of Boann/Boand & Brigit/Bridget being the same entity. I thought they were mother & daughter.*p*Sorry for the questions. -*br* Taliesin_2 Bóann, The White Cow Searles 336 Fri Jan 22 19:55:50 1999