Re: ADF? Yes or No... Searles Mon Aug 2 09:40:31 1999 ADF is a group that considered scholarship to be very important as do Keltria, OBOD and BDO (and several others) to my knowledge. My personal experience with them shows thei ritual to be valid and based primarily of Celtic forms (though they tennd to *ix and match* more than I favor).*p*They have become better at following through on their plans in recent years though they still haven't completed many of them. Since I live in a glass house, I'll cast no stones in their direction:-) There's so much to do and so little time. As with other groups of Pagans, politics has disrupted them but I believe that the past three years have seen less of that than the previous three to those. This could just be perception on my part as I haven't met with them or corresponded much with them in recent times.*p*Their litany is good and their rituals seem to be well constructed. You can probably learn and get as much or more from them as you put in in terms of work and study. The Henge of Keltria is my choice for Druid groups and currently OBOD is the group that has the most complete mail-order course. I haven't seen it so I can't make a recommendation about it other than those I've met who have taken it, think it's excellent. ADF seems pointed at a more scholarly approach to Drai/ocht, but Keltria combines scholarly, with a uniformly Celtic approach that seems to work better in terms of modern Pagan practice IMO (Keltria was born from the forehead of ADF so they have comon roots).*p*We probably have ADF members in The Summerlands, so I'll let them fill in any pareticulars or misrepresentations I may have overlooked.*p*Searles*p*DebbieG wrote,*br*: Hi, gang!*br*:*br*: I'm looking for some info (and opinions <g>) on ADF. *br*: There's a grove in Indy (StoneHawk Grove), but they appear *br*: to be waytheheck over on the Southwest side, which is an *br*: hour away in sometimes hellish traffic, so I don't wanna *br*: bother 'til I hear what y'all think!*br*:*br*: Thanks!*br*:*br*: Debbie G.*br* ADF? Yes or No... DebbieG 500 Sun Aug 1 01:21:44 1999