One more thing... TopazOwl Thu Aug 3 10:21:15 2000 Tay said:*p*: : "The Gods are the Ancestors. Don't you understand that? *br*: : Do the genealogy. You can trace the clans directly back to *br*: : the gods themselves. For instance, I am MacLaren, the clan *br*: : traces back to *br*: : Eochaidh himself! (Dagda)."*p* As an aside, I have to wonder if Tay realizes that "Eochaidh" was an honorific or title that was given to many, many Irish kings from the Dagda forward. It is a word that derives from "horse," and is intended (I believe) to indicate the right to kingship as bestowed by the Goddess Sovereignty. This is supported by the literature in the accounts of the infamous horse sacrifice at the kingmaking.*p*Leigh*br* Okay, Where Did I Leave Off...? TopazOwl 637 Thu Aug 3 09:49:48 2000