daibhaid@summerlands.com Re: One Monument in danger... Daven daven@priest.com Tue Dec 5 14:43:05 2000 Daibhaid OBroder wrote,*br*<snip>*br*: Interesting concept however is that even with the signicance *br*: of the great tree and I will be the first to admit I was a *br*: bit p'oed at the pics shown of the cut. I have to wonder if *br*: like what Searles suggested earlier, Rush isn't just a tad *br*: right? After all, the redwood is a great symbol no doubt, *br*: but the elephants dung is providing nutrients and fertilizer *br*: to the earth which is an ongoing process versus a tree which *br*: only has the purpose of growing, some to provide fruits and *br*: nuts, some to provide lumber, mostly to provide oxygen. *br*: Therefore, both have a purpose but which purpose is the *br*: greater? <snip>*p*Well, I have to agree with you Daibhaid old buddy, yes the elephant does serve a purpose, as does the tree. Neither can be completely cut out of the cycle of life, or else everything falls down.*p*However, Rush is wrong in that he beleives that the tree may make a pretty symbol, and that the elephant dung is more useful, that the tree should be ignored. That's what is killing the Amazon forrest.*p*It's an attitude of "Well, ash brings neutrents back into the soil, through the potash and potassium when the foliage is cut. So the cutting and the burning is really good for the forrest and we are helping nature along." (I actually saw that attitude on a special I was watching once) While this may be true, to a point, it misses the point that the short term harm they are doing is irrevocable. The short term harm of slash and burn of the rainforest is putting tons of toxins into the atmosphere, and removing the very means we have of removing those toxins out of the atmosphere (namely the trees themselves).*p*I have no objection to RESPONSIBLE forestization. I have never agreed with those idiots who spike trees to stop ALL logging. Wood is needed, and trees can regrow, but I think that a good percentage of what is happening in the Lumber industry can be changed into other means of doing the same thing.*p*Let's look at the whales for a moment. They were nearly extinct not two decades ago. But Greenpeace and others got together and put on a massive campain to save those we have left, and finally most industrial nations found other ways of doing the same thing they were using the whales for. And now the whales are making a comeback.*p*If we are not VERY careful, the same thing is going to start happening to the source of our oxygen, the plants.*p*[wiping spleen detrius off the post from my venting]*p*Gads, talk about over the top....*p*Daven Re: One Monument in danger... Daibhaid OBroder 748 Tue Dec 5 09:43:11 2000