Re: A Question on Druidic Validity Taliesin2 Sun Mar 18 19:34:24 2001 : However at the same time it can cause us to become bogged down*br*: (pardonthe pun)in trying to decide what was and was not important *br*: to our predecessors. Therefore, I would recommend a mix of *br*: Reconstructionism and Traditionalism.*p*Yes, but like everything else, if stared at too long, things blur and merge into one. In order to prevent that, I feel we need very CLEAR references to what is Traditional. And to reference Wicca here (briefly), The one argument that is hardest for Wiccans to decide on an agreeable conclusion is when does Practiced Wicca become Traditionalist Wicca? If the same cures and/or beliefs, spells, etc. are practiced by the family for generations? And Daven's reference to the Shakers is a valid one. And with all that said, How do we determine what exactly is a Traditionalist Druid? The closest thing to a Taditionalist Druid could be either TopazOwl and/or Searles. But for the rest of who are just getting started on this path (to our knowledge) we will have a hard time discerning what references are Traditional & what is Recreationist.*p*: There is at least one armchair herbalist who published a list of*br*: "traditional herbs" that included some measurements that would *br*: cause heart trauma in most anyone.*p*Yes, but if the use of herbs is in some way required of us to practice Druidry, which books do we reference? There are books by Scott Cunningham with Occult references in the books. Then there are books put out by Prevention Magazine & Readers Digest. Does the bookstore have a Library? If so, does the Library contain reviews of Reputable books? I know there is a Herbalists Guid or Organization in America, do they have offices in every major ciity? Do they offer budgeting options for classes? Are they offering classes online? These are the questions that need to asked, addressed & answered.*p*: However, we hardly ever see or hear anything about Scottish *br*: Druidry???*p*My friend, I never heard of it. Either because there was no research done into it or the Druids vacated Scotland leaving next to nothing marking their time there except trditions & folk tales.*p*: However many current groups are operating under this premise and *br*: are sustaining well.*p*The Three groups I'm most aware of is ADF, Keltria & OBOD. And OBOD is by far the oldest of the three. And they (OBOD) currently have a active study program through the mail.*p*: As long as we can do that and do it successfully, we should be *br*: doing pretty damn good in the long run. :^)*p*Time shall tell my friend. Nothing is carved in stone except one's passing from this plane of existence.*br* Re: A Question on Druidic Validity daibh 794 Thu Feb 22 08:30:03 2001