Re: Mainstream Religious Mandate Overturned Jehana Sun Sep 12 21:09:13 1999 Deborah wrote,*br*: Very true. I would certainly hope and expect the ACLU to *br*: defend the father's Jewish Heritage rights as much as the *br*: mother's Christian beliefs. *p*Strongly agreed, I expect this likewise, and I suspect in this case it shall be so. *p*I just hope that the kid doesnt get *br*: too confused with the it's ok/it's not ok message adn that *br*: the parents sit them down and explain to them that they *br*: actually get to make up their own young minds about what *br*: they believe when they grow up. Just present the *br*: information as each believes it to be (preferably without *br*: all the guilt BS if 'you dont believe like I think you *br*: should' nonsense that many religions are prone to). *p*Part of this will depend on the parental personalities involved -- are they (either of them) going to take stabs at the other using the child as the weapon? Nothing much one can do about that, I just hope these parents realize this and do whatever they can do to prevent it, and communicate to the child out of their own convictions *without* turning their differences into target practice on the child. (The fact that this went to court tends to worry me somewhat however in that regard...) *p*My main *br*: reason for bringing attention to the situation is to shed *br*: light on it so that the next time when it's a case of 'you *br*: cant take your own child to your own religion's event if *br*: it's not a court approved religion and WE dont approve of *br*: none of that there 'Weecan, witchcraft, paganism' *br*: mumbojumbo'(or whatever other rude and insulting names they *br*: choose to insert into the situation) then our folks might *br*: have an idea where to turn for aid.*p*Excellent point! *p*:*br*: We all hang together or we shall surely all hang separately. *br*: <G>*p*YESSS !!!!*p*:*br*: Hang in there,*br*: Deborah*br*:*br*:*br*: Beirdd wrote,*br*: : The true test of the justice of this thing will be seen when *br*: : the father gets his turn, as noted in the divorce decree, to *br*: : "provide religious training to their daughter according *br*: : to" *his* faith which, I assume, will include the *br*: : traditional Jewish proscription against homosexuality...will *br*: : the ACLU leap to his defense when the woman protests?*br*: :*br*: : All victories come on the blade of a two-edged sword.*p*Actually, I don't see this victory that way... to me, it's an, "of course, both parents get to share & pass on their own religious beliefs to their own child" --- justice is ONLY served that way, and there's no *br*"blade" and no question to that, in my mind. *p*: :*br*: : --Beirdd*br* Re: Mainstream Religious Mandate Overturned Deborah 426 Sun Sep 12 00:02:04 1999