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Re: Wiccan/Druidic Apocalyptic myths
Searles O'Dubhain

Sun Feb 23 13:02:30 2003
*br*Shamrock,*p*I see that TopazOwl has pointed you to the Morrigan's prophecy. There are several others in Irish and Celtic tradition. Two that are notable are the Colloquy of the Two Sages and the Prophecies of Merlin. The latter can be found in Geoffrey of Monmouth's _History of the Kings of Britain_. *p*Here's the relevent part of the Colloquy of the Two Sages (Immacallam in Da Thurad):*p*174. And thou, O my senior, hast thou tidings ? *br*FERCHERTNE ANSWERS*br*175. I have indeed: tidings terrible evil the time which will always be: wherein chiefs will be many, wherein honours will be few: the living will quash fair judgments. *br*176. The cattle of the world will be barren. *br*177. Men will cast off modesty. *br*178. The champions of great lords will go. *br*179. Men will be bad: (lawful) kings will be few: usurpers will be many *br*180. Disgraces will be crowds: every man will be blemished. *br*181. Chariots will perish along the race-course. *br*182. Foes will consume Niall's plains. *br*183. Truth will not safeguard wealth (excellence ?) *br*184. Sentries round churches will be fought. *br*185. Every art will be buffoonery *br*186. Every falsehood will be chosen. *br*187. Every one will pass out of his (proper) state through pride and arrogance, so that neither rank nor (old) age, nor honour, nor dignity, nor art, nor instruction will be served. *br*188. Every skilful person will be broken. *br*189. Every king will be a pauper. *br*190. Every noble will be contemned: every baseborn will be set up, so that neither God nor man will be worshipped. *br*191. (Lawful) princes will perish before usurpers by oppressions (?) of the men of the black spears. *br*192. Belief will be destroyed. *br*193. Offerings will be disturbed. *br*194. Floors will gone under (by housebreakers). *br*195. Cells will be undermined. *br*196. Churches will be burnt. *br*197. Niggardly storerooms will be laid waste. *br*198. Inhospitality will destroy flowers. *br*199. Though false judgments fruits will fall. *br*200. His path (in winter to his hospitallers) will perish for every one. *br*201. Hounds will inflict conflicts on bodies, so that every one will ... upon his following through darkness and grudge and niggardliness. *br*202. At the end of the final world (there will be) a refuge to poverty and stinginess and grudging. *br*203. Many controversies (will there be) with artists. *br*204. Every one will buy a lampooner to lampoon on his behalf. *br*205. Every one will impose a limit on another. *br*206. On every hilltop treachery will adventure, so that neither bed nor oath will protect. *br*207. Every one will hurt his neighbour: so that every brother will betray another. *br*208. Every one will slay his companion at drinking-together and eating-together, so that there will be neither truth nor honour nor soul there. *br*209. niggards will shrivel (?) one another for their number. *br*210. usurpers will satirise one another with storm of every darkness. *br*211. Ranks will be spilt: clericisms will be forgotten: sages will be despised. *br*212. Music will turn into boors. *br*213. Championship will turn to cells and clerics. *br*214. Wisdom will be turned into false judgments. *br*215. A lord's law will turn upon the Church. *br*216. Evil will pass into the points of croziers. *br*217. Every sexual connexion will turn into adultery. *br*218. Great pride and great free-will will turn into the sons of peasants and churls. *br*219. Great niggardise and great inhospitality and great penuriousness will turn into landholders, so that their poems will be dark. *br*220. Great skill in embroidery will pass to fools and harlots, so that garments will be expected without colours. *br*221. Wrong judgments will pass into kings and lords. *br*222. Undutifulness and anger will pass into every one's mind, so that neither bondslaves nor handmaids will serve their masters; so that neither kings nor lords will hear the prayers of their tribes or their judgments; so that the erenaghs [managers of church lands] will not listen to their tenants and their communities; so that the tributary will not endure (to pay) compensation to his lord for his due; so that the ecclesiastical tenant will not serve from his property his church and his lawful abbot; so that the wife will not endure her first-husband's word over her; so that the sons and daughters will not serve their fathers or their mothers; so that pupils will not rise up (respectfully) before their teachers. *br*223. Every one will turn his art into false teaching and false intelligence, to seek to surpass his teacher; so that the junior may like to be seated while his senior is above his head (standing), so that it will be no shame with king or lord who shall go to special eating or special drinking in front of his comrade who will serve him, or in front of his retinue and his company which will come to him; so that there will be no shame with a farmer who is eating after closing his house against the artist who sells his honour and his soul for a cloak and for food: so that every one at special eating and special drinking will turn his cheek to his comrade; so that greed will fill every human being: so that the proud man will sell his honour and his soul for the price of one scruple. *br*224. Modesty will be cast off: folks will be contemned: lords will be destroyed: ranks will be despised: Sunday will be degraded: Ietters will be forgotten: poets will not be produced. *br*225. Righteousness will be removed: false judgments will be manifested by the usurpers of the final world: fruits after appearing will be burnt up by a flood of outlanders and rabble. *br*226. 0n every territory will be an excessive number. *br*227. Districts will be extended into uplands. *br*228. Every forest will become a great plain: every great plain will become a forest. *br*229. Every one will slave with all his family. *br*230 Thereafter will come many hurtful diseases: sudden awful tempests: lightning with cries of trees (struck by thunderbolts). *br*231. winter leafy, summer gloomy, autumn without crops, spring without flowers *br*232. Mortality with famine. *br*233. Diseases on cattle: bedgacha (staggers ?), scamacha, murrains, dropsies, milliuda, lumps, agues. *br*234. Estrays without profit: hiding-places without treasures: great goods without men (to consume them ) *br*235. Extinction of championship. *br*236. Failure on cornfields. *br*237. Perjurers. *br*238. Judgments with anger. *br*239. A death of three days and three nights on two thirds of human beings. *br*240. A third of those plagues on beasts of sea and forest. *br*241. Then will come seven years after lamentation. *br*242. Flowers will perish. *br*243. In every house there will be wailing. *br*244. Outlanders will consume the plain of Erin. *br*245. Men will tend men. *br*246. A conflict will go round Cnámchoill. *br*247. Fair stammerers will be slain. *br*248. Daughters will conceive to their fathers. *br*249. Contests will be fought round famous places. *br*250. There will be desolation round the heights of the Isle of meadowy plains. *br*251. The sea will break over every country at inhabiting the Land of Promise. *br*252. Ireland will be left seven years before the Judgment. *br*253. It will be mournful after slaughters. *br*254. Thereafter will come the signs of Antichrist's birth. *br*255. In every tribe monsters will be born. *br*256. Streampools will turn against streams. *br*257. Horsedung (?) will turn into gold-colours. *br*258. Water will turn into tastes wine. *br*259. Mountains will turn into perfect lands. *br*260. Bogs will turn into flowery clover. *br*261. Swarms of bees will be burnt among uplands. *br*262. The floodtides of the sea will delay from one day to another. *br*263. Thereafter seven dark years will come. *br*264. They will hide the lamps of heaven. *br*265. At the perishing of the world they will go into the presence of Judgment. *br*266. It will be the Judgment, my son. Great tidings, awful tidings, an evil time ! *p**br*Below is the link to Merlin's Prophecy. It is found on page 112 in Book VII:*p*
Wiccan/Druidic Apocalyptic myths
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